In his book, The Cloud Revolution, Mark P. Mills explains how the conventional wisdom on how technology will change the future is wrong and lays out a radically different and optimistic vision for what’s really coming. According to Mark, a convergence of technologies will instead drive an economic boom over the coming decade, one that historians will characterize as the “Roaring 2020s.” It will come not from any single big invention, but from the confluence of radical advances in three primary technology domains: microprocessors, materials, and machines.

A Bit More About Mark…

Mark P. Mills is a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute and a faculty fellow at Northwestern University’s McCormick School of Engineering and Applied Science. He is also a strategic partner with Montrose Lane (an energy-tech venture fund). Previously, Mills cofounded Digital Power Capital, a boutique venture fund, and was chairman and CTO of ICx Technologies, helping take it public in 2007. Mills is author of the book The Cloud Revolution: How the Convergence of New Technologies Will Unleash the Next Economic Boom and a Roaring 2020s (Encounter Books, 2021), and host of the new podcast The Last Optimist. He is also author of Digital Cathedrals (2020), and Work in the Age of Robots (2018). Mills earlier coauthored (with Peter Huber) The Bottomless Well: The Twilight of Fuel, the Virtue of Waste, and Why We Will Never Run Out of Energy (Basic Books, 2005). His articles have been published widely, including in the Wall Street Journal, Forbes, USA Today, and Real Clear. Mills has appeared as a guest on CNN, Fox, NBC, PBS, and The Daily Show with Jon Stewart. In 2016, Mills was named “Energy Writer of the Year” by the American Energy Society. Earlier, Mills was a technology advisor for Bank of America Securities and coauthor of the Huber-Mills Digital Power Report, a tech investment newsletter. He has testified before Congress numerous times, and briefed state public-service commissions and legislators. Mills served in the White House Science Office under President Reagan.

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Segment one:

Our show bumper — featuring Ronald Reagan — epitomizes Mark’s book, The Cloud Revolution. It’s an incredibly clear statement about there being no limits to growth. More about the book here: https://www.amazon.com/Cloud-Revolution-Convergence-Technologies-Economic/dp/1641772301
The 1920s tell us a lot about behavior. What intrigues Mark about this era was the confluence of events that can tell us so much about the 2020’s. History can’t predict the future but the patterns can help us understand.
Airplanes achieved utility value in the 1920s. The expansion of telephony. The beginning of the modern science era. Mark’s book features a MUCH larger list of the combination of things that caused the greatest advancement of wealth in human history.
This is simple and brilliant from Mark. How is the cloud different from the internet. “The cloud is different from the internet as the internet is different from the telephone networks.”

Segment two:

Americans, broadly speaking, are very tolerant of cultural and political experimentation. Everything is a cycle and the American pendulum swings a little more easily than in Europe or Canada. The underlying culture of America is what led to our economic flourishing.
What people believe matters. Economists are reluctant to admit the extent to what people believe influences economic growth.
Anthropomorphic robots are an example in Mark’s book. Where will they have utility? That’s harder to predict than predicting that we will have them at all. More here: https://www.amazon.com/Cloud-Revolution-Convergence-Technologies-Economic/dp/1641772301
Directly from Mark’s book: Revolutions happen at the intersection of three spheres: the machine, the materials, and the information https://www.amazon.com/Cloud-Revolution-Convergence-Technologies-Economic/dp/1641772301

Segment three:

The amount of power required for JUST the future of edge computing is equivalent to all commercial HVAC systems today combined. Can or will we generate enough power to keep up? Mark’s answer was great in that “CAN” and “WILL” are very different.
Mark spent his first days in the United States as a commercial science adviser at 3 mile island…the week after the accident. As a power expert, Mark postulates that small nuclear reactors will become increasingly important.
Mark was pleased and surprised to find that there are something like 50 designs for new, small nuclear reactors. Some are small enough to power a house. That’s a newfound fact after writing The Cloud Revolution: https://www.amazon.com/Cloud-Revolution-Convergence-Technologies-Economic/dp/1641772301
20% of the worlds energy goes into making electricity. If you switch all of them to nuclear energy, you’ll take away 10-15% of the need for hydrocarbons. Meaning…it will have no impact on the demand 20 years from now but still remains important.

Segment four:

George Gilder’s peer-to-peer argument is not necessarily in direct conflict with Mark’s view in The Cloud Revolution. Both are possible and both are happening simultaneously. More here: https://www.amazon.com/Cloud-Revolution-Convergence-Technologies-Economic/dp/1641772301
Networks are like peaches. They have a strong core and the surface gets larger faster (the surface is the edge for those following along with the analogy).
“The technologies don’t exist” to achieve no use of hydrocarbons. The real debate is the amount of hydrocarbons in use in 20 years.
A big THANK YOU to Mark P. Mills for joining us today. Folks, he is an expert and thinker that fits right in with our other guests. Do yourself a favor and check out his book, The Cloud Revolution, at this link: https://www.amazon.com/Cloud-Revolution-Convergence-Technologies-Economic/dp/1641772301

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